Achievements in Ignorance - TV Tropes. Even when magic is involved, there are often limits. Any of the characters might occasionally be And You Thought It Was a Game, but it can be a recurring trait for a Genius Ditz or a Bungling Inventor. This trope focuses on the times the character in question achieved what he or she did largely because they had absolutely no idea that it was supposed to be impossible. Generally the best way to tell the difference is whether or not the Achievement in Ignorance can be lampshaded or not. If for comedy, it is often The Ditz who does the undoable deed. If for drama, the character in question may be a genius or prodigy in his particular field.

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On the more mundane side of things are people learning or successfully trying things their more learned peers were taught couldn't be done. Also compare Runs on Ignorance, which deals with devices that require ignorance in order to work. Contrast Power Born of Madness (in which the person does impossible deeds because he no longer cares if they're impossible),the Determinator (who tends to do this kind of thing intentionally), and Metagame which is about achievements in meta- knowledge. A Snipe Hunt may occasionally end this way.

Related to Clap Your Hands If You Believe, in which this can quite literally be the case; and . See also Magic A Is Magic A, which the perpetrators of this trope tend to violate.

Also see Too Dumb to Fool, which can sometimes be the source of this trope. Let's reiterate; Rin summoned a Servant from an alternate future, an act of the Second True Magic, simply by being Hopeless with Tech. And at the end of the chapter, she manages to summon the game's other servants. Shaman King This trope is used to explain why it is that a bunch of kids are being sent to stop the reincarnated antagonist who has spent nearly a thousand years training in hell to become more powerful, and recently is on the verge of merging with God/The Great Spirit. Essentially, the adults have hit the barrier where they begin to realize there are limitations.

The kids are too young/stupid to realize there are limitations yet. Rosseau was wrong? The humans still barely understood a portion of the alien ship's capabilities and simply didn't know that using that system so close to a planet was considered an insane move.

As it is, the human's seriously overshot their intended destination of the moon to just beyond Pluto and the stunned Zentraedi are left wondering if these supposed space warfare amateurs are actually tactical geniuses. The humans also irreparably banjaxed the space- fold drive - by which we mean to say they made it vanish in a Puff of Logic- but the Zentraedi had no way to know that. This would only be the first of many Indy Ploy or outright accidents that ended up confusing and impressing the Zentraedi. He expects Ippo to use both hands. Except he doesn't tell Ippo that.

Ippo works his ass off to achieve the feat the same it was demonstrated by Takamura: one- handed. Watch Getting Started Online. The sad thing is, she wasn't even trying and was taking her time, to the ire of her Unknown Rival Yurika Minamigawara. The test accomplishes this by being ridiculously hard, so that the students will need to cheat to get the correct answers. They are penalized for being caught cheating. The expectation is that the students will realize that they need to cheat and not get caught.

All of Team 7 passes, but only Sasuke figures out the intent of the test. Sakuraworks out the answers by hand, and Naruto leaves his test completely blank; neither gets caught cheating, so they pass. The proctor of the exam is rather amused when he sees Naruto's exam paper. He succeeds against the more experienced players but cannot follow the logic of the novice because he has no real strategy. It works, as all the other players present react as if they had never considered trying to do that. A shining example comes in his first showdown with Vali, where he grabs a fragment of Vali's Divine Diving armor and declares he'll incorporate it into his Boosted Gear armor so he'll have a hand that can punch Vali without activating his magic. Albion points out the two are equal and opposite and the idea is patently ridiculous, to which Ddraig lampshades this trope, and Issei proceeds to do it anyway.

Lucky for him, he used one made for this task, although it looks at first that he instead just almost impaled himself. At one point Team Dai- Gurren completes a difficult operation—later, their supercomputer reveals the odds of their victory had been computed beforehand, but hadn't told them because the result showed that success was a complete impossibility. She didn't do this as a deliberate strategy, she did it to adhere to Bearguy's backstory of being a stuffed animal turned into a robot. Illya shocks the others by causally doing it just because she watches a lot of anime and thinks magical girls are supposed to be able to fly. Miyu, on the other hand, inverts this — she cannot fly because she thinks it's impossible, despite Illya doing it right in front of her. When Illya tries showing Miyu an anime depicting a flying magical girl, Miyu just points out all the scientific reasons why it shouldn't work.

Everybody incredulously points out it's physically impossible for a normal human to get that strong even if they trained all the time for the rest of their lives. Shocked, Lucy asks Natsu how he's still alive, as the Celestial Spirit World's atmosphere has no oxygen so only spirits like Virgo can survive in it. Natsu says he hadn't noticed. Then again, he was only there for a few seconds at most.

By choosing to reject death, he believes he can live forever. Now, Hob's premise is completely, horribly wrong, but Death is so amused by his stupidity that she grants his wish. In a roundabout sort of way, this also makes him completely correct, just not for the reason he thinks. Hob ended up becoming one of Dream's few friends.

In The Epic Life, Jeff is a teenager with a very bent understanding of logic and reasoning. It isn't clear if this is the source of his power, but regardless, he has no concept of . Despite having no clear limits, he normally acts like a regular person (albeit absent- minded and innocent) averting the whole A God Am I trope. Cassandra is able to analyze her opponent's fighting style to predict their next move, but the Joker has no fighting style - even he doesn't know his next move!!! Taskmaster has the ability to analyze and duplicate any physical action, so he can instantly master any combat style just by observing it.

Deadpool starts acting completely at random and kicks his ass. Because they don't know there's a square cube law. When he explains this, Robo informs him that the laser he used was not, in fact, a Xenon laser, and he doesn't think their facility even has one, leaving the guy baffled about how his plan worked. This causes extreme frustration in Robo, who gets to watch the laws of reality bend into pretzel shapes because a delusional dromaeosaurid inverted gravity with a spanner, a lightbulb, two car batteries and a broken calculator. No doubt the most miraculous piece of machinery he created this way was the sentient portal- creating robot Widget. Reggie toys with him by telling him he's the school's champion athlete, expecting that Archie will humiliate himself, only to be astonished when Archie proceeds to accomplish incredible athletic feats, such as a record- breaking pole vault without using a pole. When Archie throws a javelin beyond school property, accidentally puncturing a guy's tire, he gets a memory- restoring punch in the head and reverts to his usual clumsiness.

An adult Franklin who actually understands the laws of physics needs to think of ways to work around them, even though based on the way his powers work that's only a psychological limitation. When he finally gets his act together and goes after them, he's so fat he can barely stay airborne. But he still apprehends the villains when he falls on them.